TR SDF News Update - May 2022
Published: May 2022
TR4A Cylinder Head 511695
This was and remains by far the largest of our projects, and, with more than 800 having been sold by Moss, has ensured that many of the 4-pot TRs which otherwise would have been abandoned or scrapped are up and running (or being re-built). Definitely upholding the SDF’s guiding principles: Preserving the marque and keeping TRs on the road.
Crankshaft for 4-cylinder, wet-liner engine 301815
Following the successful proving of the prototypes, Moss is having the basic machining undertaken in India, but the machining for bearings, oilways etc. is being undertaken in the UK to the engineering data – this will ensure that the finished article will be of the same quality as the cranks produced by Triumph from the 1950s onwards. Three cranks were successfully completed in 2019, and Moss ordered a batch of 50, of which a number are awaiting final machining in the UK – hence listed currently as on Back Order at Moss.
TR7 & TR7V8 Collapsible Spacer UKC979
The SDF managed to obtain a good, used specimen, identified the material and, in conjunction with Rimmers, found a company which was able to reproduce the part, which will shortly be on sale from Rimmers.
Rimmers have now received the first batch of different ratios for the TR7/8 rear axle, and the collapsible spacer is part of that development. Rimmers are also investigating the “shimming” options when rebuilding the differentials for whatever reason.
Early TR2 Thermostat Housing
Production was limited to 50 units, and these went on sale as Part Number 201522KIT from Pete and Tom Cox at Pete Cox Sportscars., and are available.
Website:
petecoxsportscars.co.uk
email:
enquiry@petecoxsportscars.co.uk
Early TR2 Rear Lamp bezel
The small batch of sets (pairs) of the Chrome Bezels 572249 were sold rapidly and were despatched to America, Italy, New Zealand and the UK.
TR4 Left-hand lower crash pad grab rail 805757/808732
This refers to Part 805757 (pad, crash assembly, facia bottom, LH, RH steering!) fitted at the base of the dashboard on right-hand drive TR4s, and has long been unobtainable. The SDF obtained a pristine original and is working with a major UK supplier in reverse engineering the product. A second item was despatched across to the USA to a company interested in investigating remanufacture, but the sample received was not acceptable, was returned and a response is overdue – perhaps the well-known get up and go of the Americans just went!
TR7 & TR7V8 Body Panels
The SDF has worked with the TR Drivers Club and Ex-Pressed Steel in order to guarantee the sale of a batch of 10 front assembly panels WKC4077, this being the part which incorporates the holes for the lamps, comprises two pressings, and is one of the first parts of the car to rot away &/or be damaged. Despite the difficulties with which companies have had to contend in 2020, Ex-Pressed Steel completed the batch as promised in December; eight were sold immediately and it seems that all will have been sold in the very near future. The successful sale of the whole batch means that TRDC can plan the next project, which will likely be a repair section for a wing – another part which rots nicely!
Reveal Moulding for early TR2 603177
Thanks to the generosity of Irishman John Reilly, the SDF was gifted a used 603177 and is investigating the possibility or reproducing this rather odd and unwieldy item. As it happens, Ian Gibson’s TR2 has always had this moulding, which should be helpful. Roger Hogarth enjoys a challenge and is experimenting with possible methods of production in very small quantity, but there might not be a result!
Small Tenax fasteners
From time to time, the SDF has investigated other unobtainable parts, including the small Tenax fasteners found on the sidescreen TRs – the larger Tenax are obtainable and are used nowadays on Morgans (well, of course!). Ian Gibson investigated fasteners by LOXX, a German company, to see whether some products could be used as an alternative, but came to the conclusion that owners would not accept such a substitute, so the project has been abandoned.
Steel Wheels
Supplies of 4½J and 5J steel wheels in good condition for TR2 to TR5 seem to be running low, and especially as far as the competition-minded members are concerned. Ian Brown and Tony Sheach approached Weller, makers of the TR6 wheels, and its parent company AE Oscroft, but drew a blank. Subsequently, one of the major and well-known TR suppliers was approached and it is hoped that batch production may be arranged at some future date, most probably once MG steel wheels have been produced.
TR2/3 Rear Aprons
Although new panels are available from Bastuck, investigation is underway with a UK supplier into the feasibility of providing repair sections in order to achieve accurate fit. The project was initiated with Stuart Edwards at The Watermill Carriage Company, but later terminated, in line with SDF policy, when it was discovered that such panels were available from Rimmers, albeit of different quality.
Alannid’s Cave
The panels which the SDF acquired from John Sykes, Richard Wray, Tony Sheach and eBay, which had been stored temporarily in Ian Brown’s and Roger Hogarth’s garages, have been moved to a permanent and secure home.
The three second-hand steel cabinets which the SDF purchased years ago to house the collection at Didcot, have been collected so that the SDF may make use of them.
John Reilly, who lives in Eire and owns an early TR2, offered the SDF free of charge a Reveal Moulding 603177 for an early TR2 – a generous gift.
Ian Gibson, who has a considerable collection of mostly Triumph cars and spare parts, discovered some original TR4 parts, and offered them to the SDF. They were valued by Tony Sheach and these have been acquired:
904120 TR4A radiator grille (in its factory packing)
850618 TR4 upper front valance
566601 TR4 rear seat pan (also fits TR4A/5/6)
In order to preserve the steel panels, the SDF has purchased a kit of Lanoguard, together with very strong Tyvek labels and cable ties. We have yet to commence the work of treating the panels –likely to be a rather messy business!
SDF Treasurer & Bank Account
Julian Garrett has been in post now for two years and is proving a very useful member of the team. Like the majority of the members of the SDF’s committee and advisers, he owns a TR4 – sensible fellow!
A great deal of effort has gone into creating, populating and maintaining our website. We owe a deep debt of gratitude to Darren Cummings who offered to mastermind the whole activity, and is maintaining the site on a day-to-day basis. In addition, Darren has been spreading the word through various other media such as Facebook.
Please keep an eye on this website, for it is where you will find the latest news of the SDF’s activities.
To complement the website, the SDF has an email address:
info@trsdf.uk which can be used to contact members of the SDF’s Committee, to raise queries and to pass on information. Darren monitors incoming mail on a daily basis, and forwards where necessary.
Parts Quality Initiative
Just a reminder that, in the first instance, the online PQI Report form on the SDF’s website should be completed:
https://www.trsdf.uk/projects#PQIIntroduction
The form asks questions relating to what an owner has already undertaken with the supplier as well as specific questions relating to product issues. The forms are collated and patterns amongst the responses identified for action.
A number of investigations were undertaken in the last 12 months, the first being in relation to the quality of the hook in the bonnet release mechanism used on TR4-TR6, a submission initiated by a combination of user errors. There are two reproduction versions, neither matching the original in design or material construction. One version is somewhat less sturdy, but, following discussions, the supplier has agreed to modify the design for the future, although existing stock will have to be sold first
The TR2 bonnet double latch is being beautifully and faithfully recreated by Russell Church (YOW500 on the Forum), please see separate report at the end of this document.
TR6 Fuel Hose - PRV to Metering Unit – 214890
In May last year, 2021, Inge Jonnson submitted a report of a failure of the above hose, this was on behalf of his friend Matz Anderson.
The failure was reported to the supplier, Rimmers, and an alternative stainless steel braided item was supplied which has solved any leakage/burst problem.
Photographs of the failure were provided and, due to the safety nature of the issue the PQI team followed the issue up with Rimmers.
The failed item was returned to Rimmers for onward return to their suppliers, and the information below was duly reported back……………